tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11083160.post114617717404970841..comments2023-11-05T07:27:52.847-05:00Comments on Olivia's Sunrise of New Beginnings: [Edited]Oliviahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04014351759393921274noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11083160.post-1146401494376688072006-04-30T08:51:00.000-04:002006-04-30T08:51:00.000-04:00Ooh you must be in a pretty nice area then. They ...Ooh you must be in a pretty nice area then. They put them in all the best parts of Houston, and of course there is one in Plano.Oliviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04014351759393921274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11083160.post-1146283490302252182006-04-29T00:04:00.000-04:002006-04-29T00:04:00.000-04:00I'm a huge advocate for humane slaughter, and if b...I'm a huge advocate for humane slaughter, and if beef in America was done in such a manner, I *might* munch down on some, BUT (and that's a big "but") I live in a nation not known for humanity but instead for <I>economy</I>. There are not small farms in America any more. We have the factory farm where animals are lined up and a bolt is shot through their heads or they are electrocuted while their throats are cut and they bleed to death. So, instead of sacrificing any doubt or any morality, I choose instead to abstain; gracefully or not, might I add.<BR/><BR/>Now, in Europe, you guys are really on to something. In Italy you can be detained for cruelty to animals if you don't walk your dog three times daily. I'd be more likely to trust animal products in an area with such stringent animal cruelty laws (but never foie gras! that's so wrong!).<BR/><BR/>As for organic and fairtrade products, I actually freelanced an article to a local paper about ethical consumerism, so I'm no stranger to economic stewardship, and just for the record, one of the reasons I moved to this neighborhood (besides the insanely low rent and great space) is because there's an organic coffee shop and a Whole Foods within walking distance! :)<BR/><BR/>Sorry I've hijacked... Maybe I should post on my blog about this! :)Miss Dallashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16831133768123027451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11083160.post-1146249174792618562006-04-28T14:32:00.000-04:002006-04-28T14:32:00.000-04:00Rox - indeed. I am about to fry up my free range ...Rox - indeed. I am about to fry up my free range Dutch veal in a few minutes...<BR/>*slinks away in shame*Oliviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04014351759393921274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11083160.post-1146248585938839502006-04-28T14:23:00.000-04:002006-04-28T14:23:00.000-04:00Luna - Foie gras is something I may encounter only...Luna - Foie gras is something I may encounter only one more time in my life anyway.<BR/><BR/>I eat free range too - specially eggs but also lamb, veal, etc, and organic as much as I can. Also, Fairtrade products (if you have that in the US it may be at Whole Foods).<BR/>But you should know that I am not a great meat-eater. Barely even once a week. <BR/><BR/>Right now my sugar is organic Fairtrade demerara!Oliviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04014351759393921274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11083160.post-1146248318576189562006-04-28T14:18:00.000-04:002006-04-28T14:18:00.000-04:00I am not against eating animal products per se. Th...I am not against eating animal products per se. They are bred for human consumption and have been an important part of human diet since the dawn of time. But yes there is a way to kill them humanely and without torturing. Eating goose liver as such wouldn’t really disturb me if it wasn’t for the force feeding and the stitching up of the rectum thing. Veal is not widely available here which is odd to me as it's one of the most common meats in Switzerland for example. In CH the laws on how animals are to be kept and slaughtered are very strict and thus comforting. But even there I always try to buy organic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11083160.post-1146245618195425422006-04-28T13:33:00.000-04:002006-04-28T13:33:00.000-04:00I was thinking the same thing as Rox: DON'T EAT TH...I was thinking the same thing as Rox: DON'T EAT THE FOIE GRAS! Did you know that they outlawed foie gras in Chicago? I was so happy!<BR/><BR/>Veal, beef, whatever... it's all raised on a feedlot here, so it's all cruel. I'll have no part of it. I only eat free-range chicken, farm fish and wild Alaskan salmon that is caught in sustainable rivers.<BR/><BR/>You really have to watch what you eat nowadays!Miss Dallashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16831133768123027451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11083160.post-1146240666618301622006-04-28T12:11:00.000-04:002006-04-28T12:11:00.000-04:00Leilouta - good genes, I guess - but I don't eat l...Leilouta - good genes, I guess - but I don't eat like that every day!<BR/><BR/>Matt - I buy red veal that comes from a humane free range farm in Holland.<BR/><BR/>Foie gras - the whole duck liver - does not taste like liver, but like crispy fatty duck skin. You only get a little piece so it's not scary.<BR/><BR/>Steli - sooooo French you are. :POliviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04014351759393921274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11083160.post-1146239168675859092006-04-28T11:46:00.000-04:002006-04-28T11:46:00.000-04:00Veal is a bit of a grey area, I was very anti-Veal...Veal is a bit of a grey area, I was very anti-Veal for many years until i atually discovered there are 2 main varieties. The White Veal is the kind where the calbves are strapped from birth and deprioved of sunlight and activity until they are ready for the chop. We'll call this Evil Veal - unconscienable cruelty for a debatable improvement in flavour and quality of meat.<BR/><BR/>Then there is red veal. The Calves roam about fields as normal and lead proper cowy lives until they hit around 6 months old when they are slaughtered for consumption. This is about the same age Lambs and Pigs are killed for their prime cuts.<BR/><BR/>not pleasant to talk about I know, but the point I am making with Veal is that there is humane veal (or as humane as it gets) it's just a case of asking politely i guess. <BR/><BR/>I've never ordered Veal myself, but would if i knew where it came from (hypocritical from someone whio has and occasionalyy still does, eat fast food). I couldn't do Foie Gras though I don't think. It's easier for me though, i am still aquiring that liver taste lol!MattJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08801624454432641644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11083160.post-1146231711674097222006-04-28T09:41:00.000-04:002006-04-28T09:41:00.000-04:00How do you stay in shape with all those delicious ...How do you stay in shape with all those delicious meals? :)Leiloutahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11423130301990752458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11083160.post-1146228040750103292006-04-28T08:40:00.000-04:002006-04-28T08:40:00.000-04:00But Steli, I watched a documentary on Bosch last n...But Steli, I watched a documentary on Bosch last night, and it would be a good exercise to use my books again.Oliviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04014351759393921274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11083160.post-1146227986534241462006-04-28T08:39:00.000-04:002006-04-28T08:39:00.000-04:00Well for most people the main phrase is "pate de f...Well for most people the main phrase is "pate de foie gras" isn't it? Pate is now a common food.<BR/><BR/>How many people have ever eaten foie gras entier?<BR/><BR/>Rox - I know, as I wrote that post I felt awfully guilty because...I also like veal. And I am not a cruel person! I love animals, so why do I do this?<BR/><BR/>As to the block in your fridge...I suspect you may never finish it if you feel so sorry for the goose.<BR/><BR/>It's so fatty I felt sorry for my heart last night...yee. Once a year is enough.Oliviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04014351759393921274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11083160.post-1146219012599329602006-04-28T06:10:00.000-04:002006-04-28T06:10:00.000-04:00It so isn't paté! It is all in a class of it's own...It so isn't paté! It is all in a class of it's own. I try to avoid this yumminess though as my heart bleeds for the poor geese. Not pretty what they do to them. Horribly cruel in fact. Which is why I still have an untouched 200g block in my fridge that a friend brought me ages ago. (These things keep for ever)I know the it's like with bacon, the pig is committed (or in this case the goose) but still, I have qualms eating it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com